Measuring Holes Big Enough to Fall Into

There are many choices available to meet the challenge of measuring a large diameter, which boils down to selecting the right tool for the application.

0 July 11, 2016
by George J. Schuetz

Maybe you’re not in Texas, but suddenly you find yourself faced with a huge measurement requirement.  You’ve been given the task of checking some large diameters…Not your 6″ variety, I mean those large enough to drive a herd of cows through. You know, the 12″, 36″ or even the 80″ variety.

Don’t go for the tequila yet. There are many choices available to meet this challenge, which boils down to selecting the right tool for the application. The first step is to look at the part print, determine the measurement tolerances, and see if there are any callouts for out-of-round conditions. Those two pieces of information will lead you to the best tool for the job.

If the tolerance is loose—in the 0.01 inch—then a digital or vernier caliper-style gage will provide a good fast check of the part diameter. Just make sure the jaws are square to the part and placed to find the major diameter. On the larger diameters, this could even be a two-person operation.

An inside micrometer is another alternative. Special kits make it possible to assemble a series of calibrated extension rods to span any diameter. Because this is a true point-to-point measuring system, the diameter has to be found by rocking the gage both axially and radially. On a large bore, this may require one operator holding the reference side of the gage in place while the second operator “searches” for the maximum diameter.

Tighter tolerances call for different types of gages. Some adjustable bore gages can get to these larger sizes.  They deliver improved accuracy and repeatability because they: 1) are adjusted to a specific (in this case large) size range; 2) provide comparative measurements using a master; and 3) are often equipped with a centralizer which makes it easy to “search” for the diameter. Pair this gage with a good digital indicator, which includes a dynamic function to store the maximum size, and you have a great tool for fast, repetitive readings.

Gages with beams that have reference and sensing contacts mounted on either end are another comparative tool. In addition to satisfying large diameter measurement requirements for tolerances within the 0.001 inch range, beam type gages have standard rest pad and contact combinations that allow measurement of shallow bores and thin wall parts, as well as grooves and other features machined within the bore. You can even build up the gage to get around a central hub.

When the blueprint requires you to check not only the diameter but out-of-roundness as well, the bar has been raised. The gages mentioned above can still be used, but the process may involve making five or ten measurements on the part, recording the results, and calculating out-of-roundness according to a formula. Not only is this approach time consuming, it also magnifies operator influences on the result because so many measurements are required.

An advanced concept can be brought into play here: the better the gage is staged, the better the result of the measurement. That’s why the shallow bore gage with its two references is better than the gages that just have one reference. By the same thought process, another reference point will result in even further improvement. Let’s take the same shallow bore gage, but this time we will use it with a staging post that centralizes both the part and the gage. The operator only has to apply a little force to make sure the reference contact is against the part, and the central post takes care of finding the maximum diameter without having to rock the part back and forth.  Now it’s a breeze to inspect for out-of-round conditions.

Just rotate the gage, keeping a little force applied to the reference contact and watch the swing of the needle, looking for the min and max values. Watching the needle, you can visually inspect for the Total Indicator Reading (TIR) or out-of-roundness variation. Add a memory option to the indicator, or an amplifier to store discreet points, and you can automatically calculate the average roundness.

By building on solid measurement concepts, staging the gage and the part, and eliminating operator influences, you can easily reduce your Texas-style large diameter measurement problems down to the size of Rhode Island.

George J. Schuetz, Director Precision Gaging, has been employed with Mahr Federal Inc. for 40 years in the metrology business.  George Schuetz mahr gagingDuring that time, he has worked in the application’s areas for mechanical and digital indicators, mechanical gages, air tooling, electronic products, special gaging designs, surface finishing, and geometry gaging, and has worked with many companies to solve specific gaging problems. Presently, George is responsible for Precision Gage Product Management at Mahr Federal. Sign up to receive George’s Gaging Tips eNewsletters at

This blog originally appeared on It has been republished on Design Engineering’s website with permission from Mahr Federal.

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